This episode was recorded 6 May 2014 live and in person at Brent’s office in lovely, sunny Ballard.

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Chris has worked at Adobe and as a founder of Rogue Sheep, which won an Apple Design Award for Postage. Chris’s new company is Aged & Distilled with Guy English — which shipped Napkin, a Mac app for visual collaboration. Chris is also the co-host of The Record. He lives on Bainbridge Island, a quick ferry ride from Seattle.

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Things we mention, more or less in order of appearance:

• Oklahoma
• Wikipedia
• The shopping cart
• Rust
• Homestead Act
• Pong
• Atari 2600
• President Carter
• Pinochle
• Republicans
• Democrats
• Apple II
• Apple II Reference Manual
• Floppy Disks
• Odyssey: The Compleat Adventure
• Marco
• Epson MX-80 dot matrix printer
• Parallel port
• BASIC
• Apple II graphics modes
• LiteBrite
• Apple II Star Wars game
• Assembler
• Text adventure games
• Paper app
• Graph paper
• Merlin assembler
• Pascal compiler for Apple II
• Locksmith for Apple II
• Apple II copy protection
• Radio Shack
• ROM chips
• Tin foil
• Alligator clips
• The Complete Graphics System
• The Incomparable
• Mike Lee on The Record
• SATs
• University of Oklahoma
• LaserWriter
• Linotronic image setter
• The Clampetts
• The Joads
• Seattle
• Las Vegas
• Belltown
• Capitol Hill
• Everett
• Queen Anne
• Magnolia
• Adobe
• Microsoft
• Windows
• X-Wing video game
• 8086 Assembly language
• Microsoft DOS
• Sierra On-Line
• PowerBook Duo
• Apple IIGS
• Think C
• Sega
• CD-ROMs
• Postscript
• Pagemaker
• Quark
• Aldus
• Pioneer Square
• 1995
• Java
• Natural Intelligence Roaster IDE
• Illustrator
• QA Partner
• Test-Driven Development
• InDesign
• COM
• Matt Joss
• Version control
• 2001
• SourceSafe
• Visual Studio
• C++
• OpenDoc Resource Compiler
• Sharepoint
• Azure
• FrameMaker
• Rogue Sheep
• CMYK separation
• Optical character alignment
• University of Washington
• HITLab
• Gel Electrophoresis
• Jeff Argast
• PowerPoint
• Western blots
• The Guardian
• Bush Administration
• Postage
• Twitterrific
• Brad Ellis
• Lehman Brothers
• Jake Carter
• Cocoa
• Quartz Composer
• Motion
• After Effects
• Kyle Richter
• Ian Baird
• IAP
• Rickenbacker’s
• The House of Shields
• John Gruber
• Dave Wiskus
• Napkin
• Guy English
• Thomas Unterberger
• C4
• United Lemur
• World Cup
• Brazil
• WWDC
• San Francisco
• NetNewsWire
• 1999
• Eddy awards